The following dialogue was first posted this past April after visiting a college campus and reading some of the editorial comment from the last few issues of the student newspaper. I'll leave it up front for a day and then return it to where is was. If you have high school or college age children, would you consider sharing this post with them? They think that they been been adequately informed of the news of this world...they have not, and they consider their education to have been superior to ours.....but it has been inferior!
They'll be educated to perform all necessary functions in a society but history will be amended to squelch patriotism, while reading itself has been taught through methods designed to inhibit individualism. Curriculums in all the humanities have been chosen for the same reason. Truth? Well truth is anything that anybody wants it to be...except of course for people who believe that truth is actually verifiable. Has this method and these schemes been successful everywhere? Of course not but enough so that that we are two peoples within one nation...a nation adrift in a sea of chaos and violence that sets the stage for their end-game.
Our youth should be informed....at least once...warned at least once.... that they have been manipulated to come to the conclusions that they have come to, and they should thus be given the opportunity to research on their own the ideologies that have been using them...and abusing them...for their own despicable purposes.
Old Main, on this her Christian college campus, always put her in awe. The newer buildings might be more impressive but they lacked....they lacked.....history and tradition. Julie always felt a little bit nervous when she spoke one-on-one with Professor Miller. It's not that he was mean or overbearing or arrogant but that he was so confident in what he had to say....but then he was the professor and she the student. Still she wanted to show him she had a mind also and that just by being young did not necessarily make one naive or unknowledgeable. Professor Miller's door never had any little post-it-notes, comics or articles on it like most of the other professors. She wished that it had for she might mention one of them to break the ice. She knocked twice.
Come in!
Julie opened the door with confidence...no slow turning of the handle with a peek inside and some inane remark like 'Oh Hi!'
Professor Miller...do you have a few minutes by any chance?
I sure do young lady.
Julie walked in and just as confidently closed the door behind her.
You said that your door is always open to discuss something from class in a little more detail.
She waited for a response but he only smiled.....that confident smile!
In class yesterday when you were speaking about the economics of mass migrations....
She paused but still no comment that would have helped.
Well, John Venesales made a few comments on what is going on in Syria and Europe today....and the refugees travelling all those miles with their families.....and then running into opposition from the people...
Professor Miller's hand went up to his beard as if to stroke it and his smile softened a little as if to show interest. This was good...she thought.
Well, he went on for about five minutes and when he was finished everyone in the class thought that you would comment on what he said but you only kind of nodded your head and continued with your lesson.
Still no comments? This wasn't going as well as she hoped.
So I was wondering if you might have disagreed with John. You see, I feel the same way as John. I have.....a passion I guess....to see that these people are helped....and so many do not want to help...This is not America!
He wasn't making it easy. So she just blurted out her question.
Professor Miller, what are your thoughts on immigration of Syrian refugees to America?
Professor Miller picked up a pen that had something written on it and seemed to read it. He then closed the book he was reading before Julie came in.
Julie....it's good that you have this....passion.....this compassion. I would though have some questions for you. Do you also have compassion upon a nation of 300 million people that can't tell it's right hand from its left and is rapidly squandering all of its liberties and freedoms... a nation that has now formally rejected it's benefactor....the God of all creation...and our Savior Jesus Christ, and will have to navigate the troubled seas of this world without His hand of protection, without his guidance and wisdom? Does your compassion extend to America's children who have some very difficult times ahead of them....quite possibly just like those children in Syria.
The professor then paused for only a moment and continued...
Are you as passionate for families in our nation whose children have, in effect, become wards of the state...a state that tries to keep those children from God and then dares God to judge it? Julie, do fifty million plus aborted babies at least equally disturb you, or does Planned Parenthood bring out the same disgust? Do you lose sleep at night over these things. Do they bring you at times to tears? God is ridiculed in the public square and kept from our children. We are rudderless and lack vigilance as our enemies conspire against us. Julie....this....this is America.
These questions unnerved her a little even though Professor Miller talked slowly and was very calm. She had two pages of facts about the refugees that she was ready to give but her professor had changed the direction of the conversation..
Professor Miller...what has all this to do with accepting Syrian refugees into America?
The professor was very deliberate in his answer...
Unfortunately very much Julie. We have enemies who are committed to our destruction. Your anger on this issue is at us but it should be on those who cause this suffering. You should direct your concern to 300 million people who are arrogantly daring God to judge them, and your care, should we fall, to an entire world that would no longer have America, imperfect as we are, to stand up to totalitarianism and tyranny. Can you imagine for even a moment what terrorists may be capable of Julie....can you see yourself walking amidst the carnage of terrorist attacks as those on 9/11 only on a much larger scale...or even visualize a distant smoke engulfing an entire city? Can you see Christians persecuted as they once were in the Soviet Union....or even Rome? Can you imagine even for a moment...an America lying in virtual ruins....their leaders shaking with fear at what wasn't supposed to happen.....and your family and all of your loved ones shaking with fear along with them?
Julie was not giving up...disorganized as her thoughts had become.Professor Miller, I have faith in God. He is in control of all things. I do not fear what may happen in the future.
With this Professor Miller waxed melancholy...
Ah...would that I had your courage, but I weaken at what I see coming to our nation.....but that wasn't my question. Can you....Julie Beatty....picture these things in your mind? Can you almost smell the smoke? Can you close your eyes and hear the cries? Can you see the faces of total despair on your neighbors and your loved ones?
I can see the faces of despair on the Syrian refugees!
And you are to be commended on this. I see those faces also but you are avoiding my question. Can you see your loved ones in despair, their country lying in ruins?
Julie played along and paused as she pretended to imagine what he requested. She wanted to say "OK yes, I envisioned them in my mind....now what?" but could not tell this lie. She continued with her pause. Maybe she should just refuse to imagine these things.
I know that these things can happen.
That also is not what I asked.
There was no way out of it. She had to actually try to imagine what he said but the professor helped her out....
Just think of one thing.....an America where God was outlawed. Put yourself right there. Look around you...at the children...maybe at your own children. You are not permitted to work anywhere without denying your faith in God. But of course you will not deny it so you will not work, nor will your future husband. Those of us who say that this influx of people has to be halted at this time...see these things I've mentioned very clearly as being at our doorstep. These people who want to destroy us.... have found an answer to one of their biggest problems...how to get in her! They play upon the compassions of America...many of which are insincere and even fabricated compassions...politically motivated...and they laugh as their schemes succeed. They know that our media is no harm to their plans whatsoever. They know that we are asleep as a people...many if not most drunken with entertainments. They are the only ones in this equation who have no compassion upon refugees. In fact they are the ones who produced the refugees.
Julie wanted to respond. All of the facts that she read in the newspaper and heard on the nightly news were floating somewhere in her head. She identified some of them but they no longer seemed to have the power of persuasion they previously had.
Professor Miller....your concerns over the Syrian refugees are....are....overblown. Its a... fear... that overwhelms you.
There was that smile again...that confident smile.
Julie.....if that's what you truly believe then yes you have to act on those beliefs. But I caution you to take this issue and read as much as you can on it before you come to your conclusions... and by that I mean you have to hear and actually meditate upon opinions.....opinions of people that you have already relegated to being.... compassionless. I caution you again in that you will get little to no useful information from what was once an honorable and capable news media.
Julie smiled at her professor...
I hope that you don't mean people like Rush Limbaugh or Mark Levin!
That would be a good start! It's going to take time Julie. Don't rush in before you are fully prepared. You have faith in God? Does not that faith include His hand upon your mind in that you can honestly inquire?
With this the professor paused once again before continuing...
Julie.....you seem to accuse us of having no compassion. That's a serious charge. I can tell you this, that we, many of us, have sweated bullets for decades on what we have seen coming....on what is now here...a populace that year by year lost the ability to think through things...whose discernment seemed to vanish more so with each Super Bowl, with each new television season...with each new springtime. If we err on this Julie... it would be because our compassions have overwhelmed us....not our fears. Our faith in God is no longer theoretical.....it is already being tested and has been for quite some time.
Julie got out of her chair without saying anything and was intent upon leaving the conversation at this point but looked one more time at her professor and asked...
Professor Miller....why didn't you mention thoughts like these in class yesterday?
David Miller stood also....
In a macroeconomics class? I'd much rather that one of my students, a student with fire in her eyes, came in and demanded an answer.
His smile came back as she turned to close the door....and she liked it this time.
They'll be educated to perform all necessary functions in a society but history will be amended to squelch patriotism, while reading itself has been taught through methods designed to inhibit individualism. Curriculums in all the humanities have been chosen for the same reason. Truth? Well truth is anything that anybody wants it to be...except of course for people who believe that truth is actually verifiable. Has this method and these schemes been successful everywhere? Of course not but enough so that that we are two peoples within one nation...a nation adrift in a sea of chaos and violence that sets the stage for their end-game.
Our youth should be informed....at least once...warned at least once.... that they have been manipulated to come to the conclusions that they have come to, and they should thus be given the opportunity to research on their own the ideologies that have been using them...and abusing them...for their own despicable purposes.
Old Main, on this her Christian college campus, always put her in awe. The newer buildings might be more impressive but they lacked....they lacked.....history and tradition. Julie always felt a little bit nervous when she spoke one-on-one with Professor Miller. It's not that he was mean or overbearing or arrogant but that he was so confident in what he had to say....but then he was the professor and she the student. Still she wanted to show him she had a mind also and that just by being young did not necessarily make one naive or unknowledgeable. Professor Miller's door never had any little post-it-notes, comics or articles on it like most of the other professors. She wished that it had for she might mention one of them to break the ice. She knocked twice.
Come in!
Julie opened the door with confidence...no slow turning of the handle with a peek inside and some inane remark like 'Oh Hi!'
Professor Miller...do you have a few minutes by any chance?
I sure do young lady.
Julie walked in and just as confidently closed the door behind her.
You said that your door is always open to discuss something from class in a little more detail.
She waited for a response but he only smiled.....that confident smile!
In class yesterday when you were speaking about the economics of mass migrations....
She paused but still no comment that would have helped.
Well, John Venesales made a few comments on what is going on in Syria and Europe today....and the refugees travelling all those miles with their families.....and then running into opposition from the people...
Professor Miller's hand went up to his beard as if to stroke it and his smile softened a little as if to show interest. This was good...she thought.
Well, he went on for about five minutes and when he was finished everyone in the class thought that you would comment on what he said but you only kind of nodded your head and continued with your lesson.
Still no comments? This wasn't going as well as she hoped.
So I was wondering if you might have disagreed with John. You see, I feel the same way as John. I have.....a passion I guess....to see that these people are helped....and so many do not want to help...This is not America!
He wasn't making it easy. So she just blurted out her question.
Professor Miller, what are your thoughts on immigration of Syrian refugees to America?
Professor Miller picked up a pen that had something written on it and seemed to read it. He then closed the book he was reading before Julie came in.
Julie....it's good that you have this....passion.....this compassion. I would though have some questions for you. Do you also have compassion upon a nation of 300 million people that can't tell it's right hand from its left and is rapidly squandering all of its liberties and freedoms... a nation that has now formally rejected it's benefactor....the God of all creation...and our Savior Jesus Christ, and will have to navigate the troubled seas of this world without His hand of protection, without his guidance and wisdom? Does your compassion extend to America's children who have some very difficult times ahead of them....quite possibly just like those children in Syria.
The professor then paused for only a moment and continued...
Are you as passionate for families in our nation whose children have, in effect, become wards of the state...a state that tries to keep those children from God and then dares God to judge it? Julie, do fifty million plus aborted babies at least equally disturb you, or does Planned Parenthood bring out the same disgust? Do you lose sleep at night over these things. Do they bring you at times to tears? God is ridiculed in the public square and kept from our children. We are rudderless and lack vigilance as our enemies conspire against us. Julie....this....this is America.
These questions unnerved her a little even though Professor Miller talked slowly and was very calm. She had two pages of facts about the refugees that she was ready to give but her professor had changed the direction of the conversation..
Professor Miller...what has all this to do with accepting Syrian refugees into America?
The professor was very deliberate in his answer...
Unfortunately very much Julie. We have enemies who are committed to our destruction. Your anger on this issue is at us but it should be on those who cause this suffering. You should direct your concern to 300 million people who are arrogantly daring God to judge them, and your care, should we fall, to an entire world that would no longer have America, imperfect as we are, to stand up to totalitarianism and tyranny. Can you imagine for even a moment what terrorists may be capable of Julie....can you see yourself walking amidst the carnage of terrorist attacks as those on 9/11 only on a much larger scale...or even visualize a distant smoke engulfing an entire city? Can you see Christians persecuted as they once were in the Soviet Union....or even Rome? Can you imagine even for a moment...an America lying in virtual ruins....their leaders shaking with fear at what wasn't supposed to happen.....and your family and all of your loved ones shaking with fear along with them?
Julie was not giving up...disorganized as her thoughts had become.Professor Miller, I have faith in God. He is in control of all things. I do not fear what may happen in the future.
With this Professor Miller waxed melancholy...
Ah...would that I had your courage, but I weaken at what I see coming to our nation.....but that wasn't my question. Can you....Julie Beatty....picture these things in your mind? Can you almost smell the smoke? Can you close your eyes and hear the cries? Can you see the faces of total despair on your neighbors and your loved ones?
I can see the faces of despair on the Syrian refugees!
And you are to be commended on this. I see those faces also but you are avoiding my question. Can you see your loved ones in despair, their country lying in ruins?
Julie played along and paused as she pretended to imagine what he requested. She wanted to say "OK yes, I envisioned them in my mind....now what?" but could not tell this lie. She continued with her pause. Maybe she should just refuse to imagine these things.
I know that these things can happen.
That also is not what I asked.
There was no way out of it. She had to actually try to imagine what he said but the professor helped her out....
Just think of one thing.....an America where God was outlawed. Put yourself right there. Look around you...at the children...maybe at your own children. You are not permitted to work anywhere without denying your faith in God. But of course you will not deny it so you will not work, nor will your future husband. Those of us who say that this influx of people has to be halted at this time...see these things I've mentioned very clearly as being at our doorstep. These people who want to destroy us.... have found an answer to one of their biggest problems...how to get in her! They play upon the compassions of America...many of which are insincere and even fabricated compassions...politically motivated...and they laugh as their schemes succeed. They know that our media is no harm to their plans whatsoever. They know that we are asleep as a people...many if not most drunken with entertainments. They are the only ones in this equation who have no compassion upon refugees. In fact they are the ones who produced the refugees.
Julie wanted to respond. All of the facts that she read in the newspaper and heard on the nightly news were floating somewhere in her head. She identified some of them but they no longer seemed to have the power of persuasion they previously had.
Professor Miller....your concerns over the Syrian refugees are....are....overblown. Its a... fear... that overwhelms you.
There was that smile again...that confident smile.
Julie.....if that's what you truly believe then yes you have to act on those beliefs. But I caution you to take this issue and read as much as you can on it before you come to your conclusions... and by that I mean you have to hear and actually meditate upon opinions.....opinions of people that you have already relegated to being.... compassionless. I caution you again in that you will get little to no useful information from what was once an honorable and capable news media.
Julie smiled at her professor...
I hope that you don't mean people like Rush Limbaugh or Mark Levin!
That would be a good start! It's going to take time Julie. Don't rush in before you are fully prepared. You have faith in God? Does not that faith include His hand upon your mind in that you can honestly inquire?
With this the professor paused once again before continuing...
Julie.....you seem to accuse us of having no compassion. That's a serious charge. I can tell you this, that we, many of us, have sweated bullets for decades on what we have seen coming....on what is now here...a populace that year by year lost the ability to think through things...whose discernment seemed to vanish more so with each Super Bowl, with each new television season...with each new springtime. If we err on this Julie... it would be because our compassions have overwhelmed us....not our fears. Our faith in God is no longer theoretical.....it is already being tested and has been for quite some time.
Julie got out of her chair without saying anything and was intent upon leaving the conversation at this point but looked one more time at her professor and asked...
Professor Miller....why didn't you mention thoughts like these in class yesterday?
David Miller stood also....
In a macroeconomics class? I'd much rather that one of my students, a student with fire in her eyes, came in and demanded an answer.
His smile came back as she turned to close the door....and she liked it this time.
